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		<title>By: Jake Grimley</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2009/11/25/arts-councils-new-public-engagement-campaign/#comment-59458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Grimley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
But it has to work the other way as well Jake. No point in having a system that positions ‘high’ (subsidised) culture against ‘low’ (non-subsidised) culture. Those who are off to see a bit of Operatic Otello in a Digbeth warehouse next week should get free tickets to Snow White on Ice at the Alex next year.
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&lt;cite&gt;Dave&lt;/cite&gt;

Agreed. My examples pointed to a trading up from &#039;low&#039; to &#039;high&#039; brow, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s what I really intended. The main thing is to convert people who attend something once or twice a year to attending three times a year (or more). I think that pairing could be between obvious crowd-pleasers and less obvious ones though.

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What gets me is that ‘going out and having a good time’ should be considered such a hard thing to sell to people.
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&lt;cite&gt;Chris&lt;/cite&gt;

Well, you are competing against &#039;staying in and being miserable&#039;. 

I&#039;m not going to comment on Scene Central, because it might come across as sour grapes.</description>
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But it has to work the other way as well Jake. No point in having a system that positions ‘high’ (subsidised) culture against ‘low’ (non-subsidised) culture. Those who are off to see a bit of Operatic Otello in a Digbeth warehouse next week should get free tickets to Snow White on Ice at the Alex next year.
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<p><cite>Dave</cite></p>
<p>Agreed. My examples pointed to a trading up from &#8216;low&#8217; to &#8216;high&#8217; brow, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s what I really intended. The main thing is to convert people who attend something once or twice a year to attending three times a year (or more). I think that pairing could be between obvious crowd-pleasers and less obvious ones though.</p>
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What gets me is that ‘going out and having a good time’ should be considered such a hard thing to sell to people.
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<p><cite>Chris</cite></p>
<p>Well, you are competing against &#8216;staying in and being miserable&#8217;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to comment on Scene Central, because it might come across as sour grapes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harte</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2009/11/25/arts-councils-new-public-engagement-campaign/#comment-59456</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it has to work the other way as well Jake. No point in having a system that positions &#039;high&#039; (subsidised) culture against &#039;low&#039; (non-subsidised) culture. Those who are off to see a bit of Operatic Otello in a Digbeth warehouse next week should get free tickets to Snow White on Ice at the Alex next year. 

I think the good folk of the Black Country would welcome &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=theatres+west+midlands&amp;sll=52.543373,-1.963806&amp;sspn=0.214223,0.571289&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=theatres&amp;hnear=West+Midlands,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=h&amp;z=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some facilities&lt;/a&gt; rather than a campaign aimed at telling them the cultural experiences they value, that makes meaning for them are somehow second rate. I thought Postmodernism dealt with all this?

NB: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esd.org.uk/Solutions4Inclusion/ProjectsByIndicators.aspx?NI=11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NI11 = &#039;The percentage of the adult population in a local area that have engaged in the arts at least three times in the past 12 months.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it has to work the other way as well Jake. No point in having a system that positions &#8216;high&#8217; (subsidised) culture against &#8216;low&#8217; (non-subsidised) culture. Those who are off to see a bit of Operatic Otello in a Digbeth warehouse next week should get free tickets to Snow White on Ice at the Alex next year. </p>
<p>I think the good folk of the Black Country would welcome <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=theatres+west+midlands&amp;sll=52.543373,-1.963806&amp;sspn=0.214223,0.571289&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=theatres&amp;hnear=West+Midlands,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=h&amp;z=10" rel="nofollow">some facilities</a> rather than a campaign aimed at telling them the cultural experiences they value, that makes meaning for them are somehow second rate. I thought Postmodernism dealt with all this?</p>
<p>NB: <a href="http://www.esd.org.uk/Solutions4Inclusion/ProjectsByIndicators.aspx?NI=11" rel="nofollow">NI11 = &#8216;The percentage of the adult population in a local area that have engaged in the arts at least three times in the past 12 months.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Unitt</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2009/11/25/arts-councils-new-public-engagement-campaign/#comment-59455</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Unitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going after semi-receptive audiences seems like a good move and yes, the web stuff seems ill-conceived at this stage - I&#039;m still not sold on the concept/execution of Scene Central and that was being talked up as being the main web presence for the West Mids. 

What gets me is that &#039;going out and having a good time&#039; should be considered such a hard thing to sell to people. After all, this lot - http://thefuntheory.com/ - can apparently make walking up stairs and using bins seem fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going after semi-receptive audiences seems like a good move and yes, the web stuff seems ill-conceived at this stage &#8211; I&#8217;m still not sold on the concept/execution of Scene Central and that was being talked up as being the main web presence for the West Mids. </p>
<p>What gets me is that &#8216;going out and having a good time&#8217; should be considered such a hard thing to sell to people. After all, this lot &#8211; <a href="http://thefuntheory.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thefuntheory.com/</a> &#8211; can apparently make walking up stairs and using bins seem fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Grimley</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2009/11/25/arts-councils-new-public-engagement-campaign/#comment-59454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Grimley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other positives include a ruthless target-driven focus on semi-receptive audiences via mainstream media. Less good: a &#039;one stop shop&#039; website featuring &#039;themed lounges that allow the user to enter a virtual arts world&#039;. I don&#039;t see how the initial objective naturally leads to that method.

My idea? Package up arts experiences in threes like Collateralised Debt Obligations. If you want to see A Christmas Carol and We Will Rock You, you are forced to sit through Katya Kabanova too. Either by law [joke], or via clever pricing incentives. A website that did that might be quite interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other positives include a ruthless target-driven focus on semi-receptive audiences via mainstream media. Less good: a &#8216;one stop shop&#8217; website featuring &#8216;themed lounges that allow the user to enter a virtual arts world&#8217;. I don&#8217;t see how the initial objective naturally leads to that method.</p>
<p>My idea? Package up arts experiences in threes like Collateralised Debt Obligations. If you want to see A Christmas Carol and We Will Rock You, you are forced to sit through Katya Kabanova too. Either by law [joke], or via clever pricing incentives. A website that did that might be quite interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Grimley</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2009/11/25/arts-councils-new-public-engagement-campaign/#comment-59453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Grimley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that there&#039;s a real determination to make it happen, and I think it&#039;s a smart move regionally to focus on the Black Country. But a little part of me dies when I hear that the solution is another logo on the flyers and another website. Is this not the type of thinking that&#039;s been driving failure to engage these past three years? Even &#039;Hello Art&#039;, the speech bubble device and the crazy web 2.0 UGC holding site feels like rehashing the same old stuff for the same old people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that there&#8217;s a real determination to make it happen, and I think it&#8217;s a smart move regionally to focus on the Black Country. But a little part of me dies when I hear that the solution is another logo on the flyers and another website. Is this not the type of thinking that&#8217;s been driving failure to engage these past three years? Even &#8216;Hello Art&#8217;, the speech bubble device and the crazy web 2.0 UGC holding site feels like rehashing the same old stuff for the same old people.</p>
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