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	<title>Comments on: Links for October 14th</title>
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	<description>Linking up Birmingham&#039;s Artistic and Creative Communities</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2008/10/14/links-for-october-14th/comment-page-1/#comment-39288</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A belated addition... the Flatpack site does have links to specific pages, they&#039;re just not very obvious! http://www.flatpackfestival.org.uk/submissions will get you to the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A belated addition&#8230; the Flatpack site does have links to specific pages, they&#8217;re just not very obvious! <a href="http://www.flatpackfestival.org.uk/submissions" rel="nofollow">http://www.flatpackfestival.org.uk/submissions</a> will get you to the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Al;bert</title>
		<link>http://www.createdinbirmingham.com/2008/10/14/links-for-october-14th/comment-page-1/#comment-38833</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston Al;bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I know 

RE:CatherineBray-
Its to be pretty much like a directory - hence you pretty much pay for a listing or space.Also likewise, there will be no reviews.

RE: Carson
&quot;editorial control&quot; 
Again its pretty much a directory so there&#039;s not a stringent control over what is included. Save&#039;s that same conversation over what is good and by what criteria - should there be a criteria - who makes the criteria and so forth.

Which leads me on to your next point - &quot;pedestal&quot; - I&#039;m sure anyone with a little foresight will want to avoid listing themselves as say an actor, with nothing to back it up. Pretty much a waste of their time and money.

Apologies for the rant! I thought I&#039;d do my best to dispel any misunderstanding of the concept here and other perfectly valid points that people have made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I know </p>
<p>RE:CatherineBray-<br />
Its to be pretty much like a directory &#8211; hence you pretty much pay for a listing or space.Also likewise, there will be no reviews.</p>
<p>RE: Carson<br />
&#8220;editorial control&#8221;<br />
Again its pretty much a directory so there&#8217;s not a stringent control over what is included. Save&#8217;s that same conversation over what is good and by what criteria &#8211; should there be a criteria &#8211; who makes the criteria and so forth.</p>
<p>Which leads me on to your next point &#8211; &#8220;pedestal&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m sure anyone with a little foresight will want to avoid listing themselves as say an actor, with nothing to back it up. Pretty much a waste of their time and money.</p>
<p>Apologies for the rant! I thought I&#8217;d do my best to dispel any misunderstanding of the concept here and other perfectly valid points that people have made.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. 

Although I can&#039;t fault the concept of a showcase for exciting creative talent (as that&#039;s my job too) surely you need editorial control over who goes in the magazine to justify its tagline?

Otherwise anyone with enough cash can hoist themselves on a pedestal, regardless of whether they have any talent?

It&#039;s an interesting discussion to have, especially with advertising revenue declining - my question would be, why choose print rather than online, especially when you&#039;re first starting off building a brand from scratch?

Good luck with the project though, look forward to seeing the first edition and seeing if this approach pays off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. </p>
<p>Although I can&#8217;t fault the concept of a showcase for exciting creative talent (as that&#8217;s my job too) surely you need editorial control over who goes in the magazine to justify its tagline?</p>
<p>Otherwise anyone with enough cash can hoist themselves on a pedestal, regardless of whether they have any talent?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting discussion to have, especially with advertising revenue declining &#8211; my question would be, why choose print rather than online, especially when you&#8217;re first starting off building a brand from scratch?</p>
<p>Good luck with the project though, look forward to seeing the first edition and seeing if this approach pays off.</p>
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		<title>By: CatherineBray</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatherineBray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Why would anyone want to read a magazine where they knew everyone featured had paid to be in it? 
It&#039;s like reading a book of adverts.

Can the artists featured buy good reviews too?

Or maybe I&#039;ve misunderstood the concept here...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Why would anyone want to read a magazine where they knew everyone featured had paid to be in it?<br />
It&#8217;s like reading a book of adverts.</p>
<p>Can the artists featured buy good reviews too?</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;ve misunderstood the concept here&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For money tho if Ive read it corretly&quot;

That is correct!

debut mag is an INDEPENDENT project - so any fee&#039;s are to cover production, distribution and other activities ( launch party-yes please!) that the guys at debut carry out to support and provide a showcase for new creative talent.


Furthermore, its a small price for those dedicated to their creative endeavour - you couldn&#039;t get a set of 5k flyers with that sort of money nowaday either - so its pretty much unbeatable value... 

FREELY DISTRIBUTED:Top quality magazine, targeted distribution, the added esteem of featuring and being published, displayed at local venues and selected retailers and so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For money tho if Ive read it corretly&#8221;</p>
<p>That is correct!</p>
<p>debut mag is an INDEPENDENT project &#8211; so any fee&#8217;s are to cover production, distribution and other activities ( launch party-yes please!) that the guys at debut carry out to support and provide a showcase for new creative talent.</p>
<p>Furthermore, its a small price for those dedicated to their creative endeavour &#8211; you couldn&#8217;t get a set of 5k flyers with that sort of money nowaday either &#8211; so its pretty much unbeatable value&#8230; </p>
<p>FREELY DISTRIBUTED:Top quality magazine, targeted distribution, the added esteem of featuring and being published, displayed at local venues and selected retailers and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Batsford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Batsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Theyâ€™re after some of those â€˜creative individualsâ€™ to be part of the first edition&quot;

For money tho if Ive read it corretly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Theyâ€™re after some of those â€˜creative individualsâ€™ to be part of the first edition&#8221;</p>
<p>For money tho if Ive read it corretly.<br />
Xx</p>
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