Comments on: Spotted Dog served with Noise Abatement Notice

By: Created in Birmingham » Nightingale news

Created in Birmingham » Nightingale news — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:05:22 +0000

[...] out. Which seems reasonable assuming Crosby actually do install the right glass. After the whole Abacus / Spotted Dog debacle people are right to be cautious and it only takes one noise complaint from a resident to shut them [...]

By: John Tighe

John Tighe — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:57:30 +0000

Cheers Pete, I did construct a website a number of years ago and whilst attempting to up-load it sent it to somewhere left of Jupiter. I know now that when Frontpage asked me for the second time “Do you really, really want to delete Birminghamirish.com and send it, forever, to the left of Jupiter?” I should not have pressed “Yes”. 150 hours of work down the drain! 60-year-olds shouldn’t be allowed near these machines.
http://www.keepdigbethvibrant.co.uk an on-line petition in support of The Dog is getting interesting. It’s hosted by an Abacus resident, Adam Crossley (long may he have a drink problem).

By: Pete Ashton

Pete Ashton — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:18:29 +0000

Hi John. Link removed. If you get a web presence you let me know, ‘kay!

By: John Tighe

John Tighe — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:08:27 +0000

Thanks for your support (I’m the licensee of The Spotted Dog). Unfortunately your link above is to the other Spotted Dog, a venue that is well worth a visit if you like live music. Alas, when the developers turn their rapacious gaze on their part of Digbeth, that Spotted Dog will face the same fate as mine. Coffee house? Wine bar? Tesco? Another venue for young bands will bite the dust. We’ve been rolled over for too long by a Council (of whichever hue) which only works efficiently in one sphere -ENFORCEMENT. Isn’t it time to rise up and say “Enough”?

By: Created in Birmingham » Spotted Dog update

Created in Birmingham » Spotted Dog update — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:06:35 +0000

[...] Previously… [...]

By: Hugh Mcgowan

Hugh Mcgowan — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:18:16 +0000

If I were to rent or buy a home beside a canal would it then be logical for me to ask it be filled in. Perhaps I could claim that I was living in fear that my cat/dog/child/self may fall in and drown. Perhaps the chug chug chug of passing narrow boats was a real annoyance. If the sound of the sea breaking on the shore troubled you, don’t go and live by the sea.

I find it difficult to understand how someone who is able to write a letter of complaint or telephone unaided, could not have seen that there was a community spirited, musically orientated pub on the opposite corner. I have been aware of the music and fabulous charity fund raising events that have taken place at or based from the dog. The complainant must have lived under a very big stone in previous abode not to have similar knowledge. They only had to ask. Pre-contract searches and enquiries would reveal such matters.

By: thestirrer

thestirrer — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:11:05 +0000

To see The Stirrer’s full story about this go to
http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/2906071.html

This also has a link to a previous story we ran when we kicked off the campaign a fortnight ago.

By: Vigs

Vigs — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:45:19 +0000

I fear that the neo-residents would speak up if a bat or grasshopper farted or had a small coughing episode.

Welcome to the city; welcome to the quarter which is the epitome of spirit and noise, albeit visual, audible or downright multisensory.

Yum! What a soundtrack to wind down to….

By: Mikhail Alexandrovich

Mikhail Alexandrovich — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:42:27 +0000

That may be true but the recorded noise level is what matters and sadly for the residents who have complained, in law, they won’t get far if it can be demonstrated beyond any doubt that passing traffic is louder. I have some good Lawyer contacts to offer the spotted Dog if the residents who have complained want to take it further. In The meantime perhaps the Spotted Dog could acknowledge them if they make themselves known and request them to keep the communication going so as to resolve the issue amicably for the benefit of all involved. Sometimes a friendly chat and a voluntary agreement to consider each others needs may achieve more results

By: Pete Ashton

Pete Ashton — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:19:58 +0000

I’m no expert but I believe it’s more about the nature of the sound than the simple dB level. Yes, you can live with the constant drone of traffic but a floor-shaking bass, even if it’s quieter, will be more disturbing. I guess it’s like a dripping tap keeping you awake.

By: Mikhail Alexandrovich

Mikhail Alexandrovich — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:05:57 +0000

I’m sick of this sort of problem coming up again and again. i have had to deal with this on many occassions. The Answer is simple, continue to make noise and request the police turn up with an environmental health officer with a decibel counter or noisemeter or whatever they call it to measure the noise with. First of all stand on the other side of the road and record the sounds coming from the venue that the residents of the housing development seem to be complaining about. the reading will be around 60 decibels at worse or less. Get the police officer to make a not and the environmental health officer too. Then record the sound of a passing car on the road or even a bus. the noise will be around 80 decibels or more. problem solved. the traffic will always be louder than the carry of any sound from the venue. What is often the case in situations like this is the local residents are irritated by the sound of repeating beats or noises that stop and start but they hardly notice passing traffic as to them it is more of a drone. I suggest The Spotted Dig just needs to get on with it and try not to worry, the traffic will be louder than any noise they produce.

By: Pete Ashton

Pete Ashton — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:45:38 +0000

Sorry. Edited accordingly. Perusing your forum does tend to bring out the worst in me. ;)

By: thestirrer

thestirrer — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:03:23 +0000

“Beyond that Adrian at The Stirrer claims to be running a campaign but I havenâ€™t seen any concrete signs of one yet. Maybe itâ€™s in the planning stages.”

Glad to see the spirit of secpticism is still alive!

The campaign is up and runing by virtue of the fact that on The Stirrer website (www.thestirrer.com) we’ve inititated this story, done a substantial follow up today ahead of any other news organisation (http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/2906071.html) and ensured coverage in the Birmingham Mail.

Dunno if that looks like a campaign to you, but it sure feels like one to us – and it feels like that to John Tighe at the Spotted Dog as well.

Our wesbite has previously helped keep Fred Grove in his Eastside home against city council wishes and maintained an out of our doctors surgery in South Birmingham when the proposal was to move it town.

We want to work witn people to help keep Digbeth as vibrant as it is, but we could do without the snipes.